All rights reserved worldwide. Thanks again for the article. I choose to believe in the finished work of the cross. It is man’s responsibility to walk in that righteousness, common sense would tell anybody that when one disobeys he loses his righteousness unless he repents remorsefully and get connected again to the living God. Given the context – state-sponsored terrorism of Christians and the very real threat of persecution unto death – I think Peter is encouraging the saints. Hi Paul, I’m so glad you posted this article….thank you! substance of it; and put it away from them, judging themselves Just ‘cuz it says Jesus was slain before the foundation of the world doesn’t mean because God knew he would sin. Biblical Commentary (Bible Study) 1 Peter 1:17-23 EXEGESIS: THE CONTEXT: • Verses 1-2 open by identifying the author as “Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ”—and the recipients as “the chosen ones who are living as foreigners (exiles) in the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia” (all located in … I’m going to give you two interpretations. More works of course! Matt 25.31. In light of this awful persecution, Peter wrote to bring perspective. Been to Pentecostal, Baptist, Charismatic, non-denom etc. I personally wonder if the inextinguishable fires of hell are reserved for Satan and the fallen angels who tormented, deceived, etc. These are just my thoughts. For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith (Eph 2:8). Imagine a person being set free from prison and committing a crime after he was released, what would happen to that person. The appeal to the elders, 1 Peter 5:1-4 a. I’ve seen it and it doesn’t glorify God at all. building, where he dwells, and grants his gracious presence, and It has nothing to do with Satan or Adam doing a greater work than Christ. The Adam Clarke Commentary, has a good entry on this, too. I have been wrestling with this for sometime. of God Jesus exposes the motivation of both groups as being what is important. 2 But for you who respect my name, the sun of vindication 4 will rise with healing wings, 5 and you will skip … “The Greek word translated Hell is Hades, coming from ‘a(i)des’. It was a perfect, never-to-be-repeated sacrifice. Just because one leaves in a chariot of fire you think he is better of. By question is how do you read it in the light of grace since Gal 3:13 says ” Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law…. Many are still part of the original sin but still have life. Grace is the only way gospel sets you free. The first times of John 6:40 “And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”. “If it is with difficulty the righteous are saved….” I don’t understand how or why we believers (the righteous) are saved with difficulty. We all have the same choice. Can’t that happen after we are no longer in our earthsuit? Straighten up and fly right. Hi Dr. Paul, thanks for the direction. they have their sufferings now, and not with the wicked in the Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. trouble and distress; for as it was necessary the Gospel should Hi Kavin, thanks for your comment. Article Images Copyright © 2021 Getty Images unless otherwise indicated. We have been redeemed and sanctified by the blood of the Lamb. It’s one thing to hear the gospel, but another to receive it. You may also be interested to learn that I am writing a grace-based book on Jesus’ letters to the Revelation Churches. represented as saying to him F15. The exhortation to Christian sufferers, 1 Peter 4:19 E. The appeals to the church in view of Christian suffering, 1 Peter 5:1-11 1. 1:14 the rest of the time in the flesh # Titus 2:12; 1 … But I could not dismiss the many great times me and God had in His Word. Hey Paul, another great post! 1 Peter 1:9-12 KJV [9] Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Whosoever wants to drink of jesus ( the many) , will be saved but whosoever wants to follow in Adams steps ( the many) he can do that too. resemble these, and serve to illustrate them. I write this as I would write to a friend talking about deep and heavy matters. It is impossible for your eye to make you stumble. In the beginning, the New Testament church only had to worry about persecution from religious folk. 1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the exiles of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, 2 who have been chosen and destined by God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit to be obedient to Jesus Christ and to be sprinkled with his blood: May grace and peace be yours in abundance. However, let’s first read the scripture in context: Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you. 1 Peter 4:18 - And if it is with difficulty that the righteous is saved , what will become of the godless man and the sinner ? When Jesus returns in glory he will not judge anyone. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. v.14: “you are insulted because of the name of Christ” Not on purpose I’m sure. He’s referring to all who believe and recieve His gift. 1 Peter 1 - Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, If an earthquake wipes out a city, it’s God judging his house. Your friendship was worth it. Create a website or blog at WordPress.com. ( Log Out /  I choose to believe that God condemned ALL sin – including yours, mine, and Ananias and Sapphira’s – in the flesh (ie: in Jesus), just as the Bible declares (Rom 8:3). But I strongly disagree with those who say we are born fist-waving, hell-bound rebels. (1 Peter 4:17 ESV) The Greek word translated as judgment is "krima," which means a decision or a verdict was made and is not the act of judging. IF so, what curses is Paul talking about? The Gospel in Ten Words He said it’s a promise from Jesus, so we can be rejected and send to hell. We can remain in Adam’s family or we can get adopted out. their nation, city, and temple; and in the world to come We have been forgiven.” I don’t consider myself a “universalist” but the above quote from your reply backs up what I believe. Some have trouble choosing life as they believe they were and allways alive, they are only saved, and they then debate what they were saved from.They have life but don’t really believe it, like Martha . We are to be baptized by the Holy Spirit and Fire! Sir, we are blessed. Let me finish with three questions for those who still think God is judging/punishing the church: Just something to think about. 5:24; Col. 3:3, 5 whoever has suffered in the flesh # [2 Pet. 4. Ephesians 2:8 is just one scripture that demolishes the universalist argument. There are numerous other verses supporting it as well. Either the cross is the once and final solution for sin (Heb 9:26), or it isn’t. Become an Escape to Reality subscriber today. Strip away the jargon and their message is: “Bad things are going to happen to you. But the good news was worth it. Stuff Jesus Never Said, Comment Policy upon which account they are reserved till last, to be the objects family of God: and by judgment is meant, not punishment for sin, It’s free! 3:18 Christ suffered in the flesh, # 4:1 Some manuscripts add for us; some for you # [Eph. Biblical Commentary (Bible Study) 1 Peter 4:12-16 EXEGESIS: THE CONTEXT: Recipients of this letter are experiencing trials, harsh treatment, and suffering (1:6-7; 2:18-20; 3:13-17; 4:1-4, 12-19; 5:10). The context of the command to love each other is the Christian community, the body of Christ, the church. (2) Even though persecution is painful, rejoice on account of the coming glory (4:13). Thank you so very much. But i know nobody believes that. Lou, you say hell is an uncertain place and that the parable doesn’t prove eternity. I believe all sin was dealt with on the cross. I argued with this topic a few weeks ago. It means He was well able,willing,and prepared to do whatever He had to. The root word does not take away or detract from the fact that the Bible teaches there is a place of eternal separation from God. time was come, or at hand, that God would begin at his sanctuary, 1 Peter 4:17, ESV: "For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, … The Expositor's Greek Testament. Where was our freedom when Adam fell and doomed us all to an everlasting torture chamber? Look I believed in Hell for most of my life. Truth is your books are not here. Actually the good news is even better than that, but you get my drift. everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and It humbles most folks because they know they are not worthy for so great a gift. Israel hath not obtained that which he seeks for … God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, ears that they should not hear; unto this day.” Romans 11:8, “But ‘Have they stumbled that they should fall? Jews, who seem chiefly designed, here; it was first preached to In context, I think this makes sense – both in the specific context of this Scripture as well as the context of Jesus’ finished work. I mean’t Acts 17:30-31, sorry. This has nothing to do with one’s love or hatred for the sun – it’s just a natural reaction to the brightness of the sun. The whole message of the Bible reveals salvation dependent on repentance and faith. Thank you for putting it in words that I could understand. The first interpretation emphasizes things we must do while the second emphasizes things Christ has already done. The grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men but unless you receive it by faith it will be of no effect to you. Because of Nero Christians were being tortured and killed for their faith in Christ. Quite possibly because we still are not totally seeing things from God’s perspective so we just try and surmise what happened to justify our limited understanding. I believe why it says many were affected in the fall is to be taken in the same sense as ,” many will be affected because of Jesus”. It has encouraged me so much. There are also numerous verses that clearly show that repentance and a confession of faith are required to receive what was accomplished in the cross. Hi Lou, Blessings. Blessings. strictly speaking, because Christ has endured this in the room Hi Lewis, the point is that it does say just that in the passage you refer to it depends what lense you look through, for me this is one of the great grace messages Jesus gave. Satan has been defeated and the prison walls are down. Either Jesus is Lord or He isn’t. I was wondering what thoughts people may have as to why He said what He did here. Temporary earthly consequences for sins committed? But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed. I think there are some events in the bible we just don’t understand yet because we refuse to fully embrace ideas that we do not want to agree with. Since Christ suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind: The commitment God calls us to have is nothing greater than the commitmen… The person making the appeal, 1 Peter 5:1 b. temptation, affliction, and persecution. And if judgment begins with us, what terrible fate awaits those who have never obeyed God’s Good News? (non-christians) Or that this needs to be understood through the filter of the cross? (scriptures in parenthesis). Jesus whole point was that it was too late for the rich man who was experiencing separation from God and that if his brothers didn’t believe based on the revelation they’d already been given, someone coming back from the dead wouldn’t make any difference. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. If you are angry, I’ll go join the army and put it to use. Think of this: a child that dies prematurely – that child’s parents will continue to love them passionately loooong after that child has departed from their human body. Contrary to popular mythology, knowing all sin has been paid for does not encourage people to go and see how deeply into sin they can jump. Roger Hahn. Thanks. I have ask God many times if it is the truth and all I hear is I love youu unconditionally so now when I start thinking old religious ways I meditate John 3:16. Neither seem likely. However we define love, we must include freedom, for without the freedom to walk away, there can be no such thing as love. Learning about God’s Grace is liberating. If it isn’t, then Jesus is not the Savior and you should live in mortal fear. First let me address Brandon. A Living Hope either us Jews, for Peter, and those he writes to, were such; or were the symbol of his presence, and his worship; and now the If someone gives you a gift for your birthday, you have to receive it to make it your own – or like the universalist, you can leave the person standing knocking at the door with the gift in his hand without actually taking it from him, but think he will someday hunt you down and force you to take it . We have tens of thousands of denominations all of them with their own “truths” so yes “gymnastics” are on full display. “Satan has been defeated and the prison walls are down. Better to suffer “according to God’s will” (v.19) meaning on account of the gospel, than to suffer the far greater consequences of rejecting the life that Christ offers. “It 3 will not leave even a root or branch. that’s good news. Paul was probably dead and Peter would soon be crucified. If they persecuted Jesus they will persecute you. Sometimes it takes looking at all the events as a whole and letting God teach us what is in common. Would you please respond. It is in the queue to be published probably next week. Adam did not rule and therefore lost his authority – bottom line. Must have been quite a shock to most everyone there except the Lord of course. (1 Pet 4:17). which is often so called, because it was built for God, and where If an earthly father knows how to give good gifts to his children how much more your Father in Heaven? It’s the decision of a judge or authority. I always consult e2r when it comes to difficult scriptures. You also need to do some pretty good gymnastics with certain scriptures to make them “fit” with this view.” like the belief in eternal damnation is far from the truth. 1 Since therefore # ch. We are. Also God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, NOW be ye reconciled to Him. judgment on the world, and condemnation with it; see ( 1 This is Hades – unseen, the unknown realm.The English word from Anglo-Saxon ‘hillan’ or ‘helan’ means a cavern, a concealed or unseen place. HI Paul love your article, my question might be abit way off your topic here but would love to hear what you understanding in this Gal 1:8&9 that Paul preached “but even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.” And then he repeated again on verse 9 about preaching any other gospel that they will be accursed. It seems you are prepared to risk much on an uncertainty. I could be wrong. 4. What do you make of some of the things Jesus talks about in Revelation 2-3 to New Testament Churches living in the New Covenant? The door is now open, the curtain torn, and the way is clear. Specious means spurious and your logic is demonstrably so. We have been forgiven. Our approaching end, is a powerful argument to make us sober in all worldly … All men are saved through Christ and Christ alone. So I’ll give you the short version and leave it at that: I don’t believe anyone of us is born with a “sin gene.” Surely, we a born in a world bent towards sin. If God loses just one to hellfire or whatever than Satan and Adam did a greater work than Christ. Of the two possible errors, the one you risk is infinitely riskier. He even had to to tell His own disciples what they meant because they themselves weren’t sure. However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name. See that you do not refuse him who is speaking. And, “If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?” Rom 8:38-39 says that nothing, not even death, will be able to separate us from the love of God. If you are a sheep it is a day to look forward to with confidence. It refers to a rich man and a beggar, that’ it. We have been reconciled. Isaiah (and Paul in Philippians 2) are not speaking to the issue of universalism one way or another. ), Submission doesn’t Mean what you Think it Means, 6 Awesome Things that will Happen when Christ Returns. I’ve been dodging this question for years, not because I’m unsure, but because I don’t want to start a flame war. Whether it is Ananias and Sapphira, King Herod, or even when Paul commanding blindness in Bar-jesus. (, California - Do Not Sell My Personal Information. I choose to believe that what Jesus did was a perfect work that cannot be added to or improved upon. Not saying that is the case in your life, but the Word is very clear about a need for surrender on our part. I used to believe in the doctrine of Hell thankfully no more. God has his set time to favour his Zion, so likewise to chastise 2 Thess 6-10, Paul does talk about hell. ‘Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles [like Lazarus-Eleazar]; how much more their fullness’ (verse 12).”. I’ve often wondered how to reconcile that with believers’ secure salvation and place of no condemnation through faith in Christ Jesus. I’m interested in having it as soon as it is published. Jesus didn’t share your uncertainty about hell. Originally known as Simon (Greek), or Simeon (Hebrew); compare (Mark 1:16; John 1:40-41). See 2 Peter 1:11 — Ed. 5:15 so as to live for # ch. They were not Jews under the law……. But the way you put it sounds right. which he beautifies, fills, repairs, and defends; and so may So the argument that God will force salvation onto everybody does not hold water – if God’s grace will override mankind’s rebellion in the spiritual dimension, why doesn’t He step in right now and put an end to all the suffering in the natural realm as well? As I preach on eternal salvation, someone confronted me with Revelation 3 “Jesus promised to SPEW the Christians out of His mouth” because they don’t please Him. NIV®. Why would God, who IS love, put such a strict boundary on Himself as to the reach of His love? Your comment about plucking an eye is an example of hyperbole. Oddly God never mentioned an everlasting torment when he kicked Adam out of the Garden. . So just disregard “root words” when it doesn’t fit the doctrine? No worries. v.16. We'll send you an email with steps on how to reset your password. He doesn’t force Himself on anyone. Sadly, some won’t. Life. If Jesus said he would not judge even the lost (Jn 12:47), why would he judge those he has redeemed and are now reckoned perfect? Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Some will fall in adoration; others may fall in terror. Don’t Take Verses Out of Context (1 Peter 4:17, Matthew 7:1-2) Perhaps you have seen already that 1 Peter 4:17 is a verse, which is lodged in between a passage speaking about suffering. Philadelphia has been on my to-do list for about a year. I have a doubt on eternal security I need you to help dissolve. I wish that what you said is true, that God will save all. He said they helped me without even seeing me, faith.Off the goats he said they thought they were so good in works they missed the purpose of my comming they missed me, even though they thought they were good people, they were surprised that they had not done the right work, to believe and see. This is not about Satan being mightier. Oh, one more thing: I don’t believe we are condemned for Adam’s sins or our own. It’s not “specious” to say that if by one man Adam got us all condemned and by one Man Christ only some us will be saved then Adam and Satan did a greater work than God. Yet even now God offers every one of us a choice. The writer of Hebrews talks about how Israel heard the gospel, but rejected it – they didn’t mix it with faith: Heb 4:2 For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it. I don’t believe in it anymore!” One day the word Hell kept popping up into my mind over and over. Start your journey to freedom! Why would we need to be in our mortal bodies in order for God to pursue us or for us to respond to His love, to Christ? Of course we know that all sin is paid for in Christ, so I can only assume that the word to be looking at here is judgement. He wants to go into all of the world to announce the Good News! end in wrath and severe punishment on them: and whereas it is 1Pe 4:18 : And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? Look at how Peter describes this judgment: v.12: “the fiery suffering among you that is coming to try you” ( Log Out /  I notice you don’t have any comments on Hebrews 13:4 in your scripture archive, and wondered which conclusion you come to about this verse? A reader asked me about this several weeks ago and I have now have post on this very topic primed to go. The verse does not say that the first verdict of God shall strike His own house, the Church, and after that, a second verdict shall strike the wicked in the world. What is this judgement and why did Jesus not say the sheep put their faith in me where the goats don’t & think they are good enough by themselves? I do see the phrase, “household of God” as an indication that there are There is NO place in Scripture that suggests it does not exist. 6:13] arm yourselves with the same way of thinking, for # Rom. I was in them when they came here. They seem to forget that all of our sins were dealt with at the cross. For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? Again great site! We are saved by grace but we must then live by the Spirit, stay away from sin, confess and repent continually. ”. This is about God being true to Himself. How do you read this? What condemns us is our refusal to lay hold of the free gift of life (John 3:18). The First of Peter. Some won’t and the end for them will be horrific. In saying this, It is very simple to know that Man through Adam have lost his righteousness, because of disobedience.Than Christ comes along, and redeems man from the sin of unrighteousness that he may be righteousness once again, man has been set free from the bondage of sin and disobedience. Peter is not saying we have to go through difficulties to prove ourselves righteous or save-worthy, he’s quoting an old Proverb (Pro 11:31 if you’re interested) to make his point which is that there are consequences to whatever we choose. 6 Some were told … The apostle Paul makes very clear in numerous verses that not all will receive what is available to them. Christ universal victory is freely available to all, but they have to accept and embrace it. How do we reconcile this with the truth of eternal security? I didn’t wake up one day and say “Hell sucks! This helps. BTW my comments aren’t written with an argumentative spirit by any means. 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